This Or That

Hosted ByPaul Grote and Scott Sanders

The format for This or That is the two of us – Paul Grote and Scott Sanders – discussing topics in the business world, pop culture, movies, sports, and politics. We look at the topic from various angles, highlighting the merits and uncovering the flaws, all while having some fun along the way. It will be up to you, the PEN Listener, to choose, either This or That.

The format for This or That is the two of us – Paul Grote and Scott Sanders – discussing topics in the business world, pop culture, movies, sports, and politics. We look at the topic from various angles, highlighting the merits and uncovering the flaws, all while having some fun along the way. It will be up to you, the PEN Listener, to choose, either This or That.


All Episodes

MLB v NFL – The Gameday Experiences

This week’s debate is the MLB v NFL. Before drop-kicking the debate and choosing the NFL, hear Paul out. Using the criteria of the in-person gameday experience, watching on TV, and comparing the World Series to the Super Bowl, a compelling case can be mad

E003 – Starbucks v Dunkin’ Donuts

This week the fellas debate your morning cup of Joe – Starbucks v Dunkin’ Donuts. Join hosts Paul Grote and Scott Sanders as each tries to persuade you to their side, analyzing the two chains’ beverages, menu, food quality, culture, and impact.

E002 – Debating New Name-Image-Likeness Rules in College Sports

July 1 the landscape changed for college sports. Now college athletes can get paid, through endorsement deals, using their Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL). Hosts Paul Grote and Scott Sanders debate the issue in the show’s format, trying to win you over to t

E001 – Goodfellas v The Godfather

Hosts Paul Grote & Scott Sanders debate Goodfellas v The Godfather, incl Best Cast, Best Scenes, Story, and Climactic Scenes. In the This or That format, Paul and Scott each take a side, make their arguments, but leave the decision to you – The Listener!