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This Or That

Hosted ByPaul Grote and Scott Sanders

The format for This or That is the two of us – Paul Grote and Scott Sanders – discussing topics in the business world, pop culture, movies, sports, and politics. We look at the topic from various angles, highlighting the merits and uncovering the flaws, all while having some fun along the way. It will be up to you, the PEN Listener, to choose, either This or That.

The format for This or That is the two of us – Paul Grote and Scott Sanders – discussing topics in the business world, pop culture, movies, sports, and politics. We look at the topic from various angles, highlighting the merits and uncovering the flaws, all while having some fun along the way. It will be up to you, the PEN Listener, to choose, either This or That.

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E013 – College Superconferences, Good or Bad?

Are superconferences good or bad for college athletics? Let’s go beyond...

E014 – How to Build a Winning NFL Roster

You’ve landed your dream job – GM of an NFL Franchise!...

E012 – St. Patrick’s Day vs Cinco de Mayo

Just in time, this week’s episode of This or That debates...

E011 – NFL Draft vs NBA Draft

A timely episode of This or That with show hosts Paul...

E10 – Spring or Fall

This week on This or That hosts Paul Grote and Scott...

E009 – Oscars Season: Debating Movie Length

Wrapping up the show’s Oscars Season arc, Paul and Scot debate...

E008 – Oscars Season: Arthouse Movies vs Blockbusters

We kick off Oscars Season by debating the merits of the arthouse/boutique movies the Academy seems to love versus the blockbusters everyone actually sees. Join hosts Paul Grote and Scott Sanders in the debate, and get in touch with the show at thisorthat@

E7. Debating the NCAA Transfer Portal

Just in time for college football to return, Paul and Scott are debating the NCAA Transfer Portal. Pros and Cons exist during this “Wild West” time of transfers. The hosts debate the impact on the athletes, the teams, and college football itself, building

E6. Vacation Styles – Relaxing v Adventurous

Paul and Scott are back, debating which is the better vacation style – Relaxing v Adventurous. Both have their merits, as it’s hard to go wrong with a vacation, but the hosts make their arguments trying to persuade the listener to their view. They also sh