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This Or That

Hosted ByPaul Grote and Scott Sanders

The format for This or That is the two of us – Paul Grote and Scott Sanders – discussing topics in the business world, pop culture, movies, sports, and politics. We look at the topic from various angles, highlighting the merits and uncovering the flaws, all while having some fun along the way. It will be up to you, the PEN Listener, to choose, either This or That.

The format for This or That is the two of us – Paul Grote and Scott Sanders – discussing topics in the business world, pop culture, movies, sports, and politics. We look at the topic from various angles, highlighting the merits and uncovering the flaws, all while having some fun along the way. It will be up to you, the PEN Listener, to choose, either This or That.

Let us know your thoughts – Call the P.E.N. Listener Hotline at (833) PODSNET or (833) 763-7638.

Reach the show via email at ThisOrThat@podcastentertainment.com

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E009 – Oscars Season: Debating Movie Length

Wrapping up the show’s Oscars Season arc, Paul and Scot debate...

E008 – Oscars Season: Arthouse Movies vs Blockbusters

We kick off Oscars Season by debating the merits of the arthouse/boutique movies the Academy seems to love versus the blockbusters everyone actually sees. Join hosts Paul Grote and Scott Sanders in the debate, and get in touch with the show at thisorthat@

E7. Debating the NCAA Transfer Portal

Just in time for college football to return, Paul and Scott are debating the NCAA Transfer Portal. Pros and Cons exist during this “Wild West” time of transfers. The hosts debate the impact on the athletes, the teams, and college football itself, building

E6. Vacation Styles – Relaxing v Adventurous

Paul and Scott are back, debating which is the better vacation style – Relaxing v Adventurous. Both have their merits, as it’s hard to go wrong with a vacation, but the hosts make their arguments trying to persuade the listener to their view. They also sh

Clocks Changed – Debating Standard Time v Saving Time

With the clocks changing this week, the hosts Paul and Scott take sides debating whether Standard Time or Saving Time is the better option if the country decides to stop springing forward and falling back each year. The third option – the status quo – is

MLB v NFL – The Gameday Experiences

This week’s debate is the MLB v NFL. Before drop-kicking the debate and choosing the NFL, hear Paul out. Using the criteria of the in-person gameday experience, watching on TV, and comparing the World Series to the Super Bowl, a compelling case can be mad

E003 – Starbucks v Dunkin’ Donuts

This week the fellas debate your morning cup of Joe – Starbucks v Dunkin’ Donuts. Join hosts Paul Grote and Scott Sanders as each tries to persuade you to their side, analyzing the two chains’ beverages, menu, food quality, culture, and impact.

E002 – Debating New Name-Image-Likeness Rules in College Sports

July 1 the landscape changed for college sports. Now college athletes can get paid, through endorsement deals, using their Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL). Hosts Paul Grote and Scott Sanders debate the issue in the show’s format, trying to win you over to t

E001 – Goodfellas v The Godfather

Hosts Paul Grote & Scott Sanders debate Goodfellas v The Godfather, incl Best Cast, Best Scenes, Story, and Climactic Scenes. In the This or That format, Paul and Scott each take a side, make their arguments, but leave the decision to you – The Listener!